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CedarLight Discussion => CedarLight Announcements and CedarLight Events => Topic started by: LaFiamma on October 09, 2007, 05:35:44 AM
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Hey folks, just want to let everyone know that I will be holding a ritual for the Greek festival of Puanepsia at the grove on Friday 9/19. This is a festival of harvest and blessing in honor of Apollo. If you can see this post, you're welcome to attend.
(Interestingly enough, a festival to Dionysus also falls on this day...I'm trying to do a little research and see if the two were connected, or happened independently of each other)
Renee
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10/19? :)
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10/19? :)
er, yeah. that.
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Would you like this on the events calendar?
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Would you like this on the events calendar?
Sure, go ahead.
Renee
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What time do you plan to have everything start?
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What time do you plan to have everything start?
Time, schmime...what does it matter?
Um, seriously though. Let's say 730, people wanting to participate should show up by 7. Unless something huge comes up, I'm not operating on pagan standard time either.
Renee
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Some information on Dionysus' Celebration:
The Ôskhophoria, in honor of Dionysos, occurs on the same day as the Puanepsia. It may seem odd to honor Apollo and Dionysos, so often taken as polar opposites, on the same day, but we must remember that They share Delphi, and this is the time of year when the changing of the guard occurs. An ancient pot shows Them shaking hands over the Omphalos (World Naval) at Delphi.
The procession is led by the Oskhophoroi, two men dressed as women in ankle length tunics; this commemorates the two youths whom Theseus disguised as maidens to protect the other maidens (see below). They carry vine branches still bearing grapes (ôskhoi). The herald carries a wand with a garland wrapped around it, rather than on his head, to signify the triumph of Theseus return mixed with the grief for his father's death. The procession also includes "Dinner Carriers," women bringing the Sacred Meal, which represents the meat, bread, and encouraging tales that the parents brought to the Twice-seven Children, who went to Crete with Theseus. When the procession, which starts at temple of Dionysos, arrives at the Shrine of Athena Skira (Athena as protectress of the grape harvest), there are cries of "Eleleu! Iou! Iou!" This is a paradoxical combination of encouragement (Eleleu) and woe (Iou), which recalls both Theseus' return, and the death of Dionysos by which He is reborn.
From: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~mclennan/BA/GSF.html#oskhophoria
On an unrelated note: did that lady with the webpage you disagreed with, ever write you back, Renee?
Jack
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Some information on Dionysus' Celebration:
The Ôskhophoria, in honor of Dionysos, occurs on the same day as the Puanepsia. It may seem odd to honor Apollo and Dionysos, so often taken as polar opposites, on the same day, but we must remember that They share Delphi, and this is the time of year when the changing of the guard occurs. An ancient pot shows Them shaking hands over the Omphalos (World Naval) at Delphi.
The procession is led by the Oskhophoroi, two men dressed as women in ankle length tunics; this commemorates the two youths whom Theseus disguised as maidens to protect the other maidens (see below). They carry vine branches still bearing grapes (ôskhoi). The herald carries a wand with a garland wrapped around it, rather than on his head, to signify the triumph of Theseus return mixed with the grief for his father's death. The procession also includes "Dinner Carriers," women bringing the Sacred Meal, which represents the meat, bread, and encouraging tales that the parents brought to the Twice-seven Children, who went to Crete with Theseus. When the procession, which starts at temple of Dionysos, arrives at the Shrine of Athena Skira (Athena as protectress of the grape harvest), there are cries of "Eleleu! Iou! Iou!" This is a paradoxical combination of encouragement (Eleleu) and woe (Iou), which recalls both Theseus' return, and the death of Dionysos by which He is reborn.
From: http://www.cs.utk.edu/~mclennan/BA/GSF.html#oskhophoria
On an unrelated note: did that lady with the webpage you disagreed with, ever write you back, Renee?
Jack
Jack- he wrote me apologizing for the delay and said he'd try to get to it over the weekend. I'll let you know if I get a response.
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This looks interesting. I think I'll do my best to attend. :)
^Z
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So everyone knows, this has been moved to Saturday evening, same time, same bat channel.
Renee
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This Saturday night? What time?
Jack in the Green
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Consider me a possibility. I might put off Dungeons and Dragons just for you, Renee! <3
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This Saturday night? What time?
Jack in the Green
It's up there in the thread somewhere...hehe...730, show up by 7.
Renee
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Just so everyone knows...I'm planning to use an ADF ritual for this. I was looking at a couple of different rituals and only really decided tonight for sure. I might have done something different, except it's kinda short notice for a lot of folks, and I think we're all familiar with ADF rituals here so it seemed like the best idea.
By the way, I've not had the chance to research the Oskhophoria for a connection (or lack thereof) and I'm feeling a serious personal need to Tread Lightly where Dionysus is concerned right now, so this is going to be simply Puanepsia
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Hopefully some people up my way will get down your way. Do you need RSVPs? I posted the info on my LJ.
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Sorry I didn't get to make it. I mean to come but got distracted by the pursewarden reports. I heard that you had a decent turnout though.
Caryn
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Jack- he wrote me apologizing for the delay and said he'd try to get to it over the weekend. I'll let you know if I get a response.
After some confusion and back and forth as to which article this was, I got this response:
Ahh ... *that* article. :) I wrote that over 10 years ago; in hindsight, I'd say it's a bit too terse. The attendant nature of Hekate is obvious in the Homeric hymn, and her role as guide for Persephone back from Hades is amply recorded in *other* versions of the Return.
However, he does not specify which other versions he means.
Renee